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Dimmu Borgir
« on: May 03, 2006, 12:42:16 am »
Stau si ma intreb de ce a fost ocolita aceasta trupa?
Este prea buna, prea  "comerciala ", nu merita bagata in seama, este de kkt, este o valoare incontestabila in registrul black, este.......??
Sigur se pot discuta o gramada de chestii interesante!
Ar fi de dorit ca cei care au argumente forte de genul: " dimmu sux. punct "    ;D  sau "dimmu ruuuuuulllllzzzzz.punct"    8)  sa nu posteze, pentru ca parerile lor au fost deja luate in considerare!
Multumim pentru intzelegere!   ;D
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 02:11:03 pm »
dom'le, pe aceasta trupa scrie mare si cu leduri: controversata......

parerea mea stricta este ca nu ea insasi strica, ca si muzica si conceptie, ci faptul ca foarte multa pustime o descopera, alaturi de cof si acolo ramane, considerand-o ca etalon in extreme metal, dupa ce au invartit intre linkin, rasmus si soad...... de aici apar reticentele.... in ceea ce priveste faptul ca sunt comerciali... asta e o discutie lunga si intortocheata, mai ales pentru teoreticienii blecului...
personal, ii agreez, fara sa ma dau in vant dupa ei, pentru ca pe felia lor consider ca sunt alte trupe mai interesante; desi multa lume a injurat comercializarea trupei, totusi sa canti si nu aiurea, cot la cot cu filarmonica pragheza, demonstreaza ca se cunoaste si muzica din belsug, iar asta cred ca e important, totusi...
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 02:11:03 pm »

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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006, 05:06:39 pm »
corect,controversata este formatia asta...k si COF din kte am observat,desi mie Dimmu imi par mult peste COF k valoare(pe subiectu c gen knta COF park iar apar n variante..)
parerea mea k Dimmu Borgir e o trupa d oameni kre isi fac bine treaba,talentati,metalishti cu experientza...mie imi place...ashtept totusi urmatorul album s vad in ce sens s indreapta formatia,caci stormblast 2005 n-a fost kiar cel mai elocvent album in acest sens
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2006, 06:37:37 pm »
Quote from: iced guardian on May 03, 2006, 05:06:39 pm
.....,caci stormblast 2005 n-a fost kiar cel mai elocvent album in acest sens


pai nici nu are cum sa fie, odata ce este vechiul stormblast reinregistrat!   ;D
Din aceasta cauza au shi fost criticati ca sunt in pana de inspiratie, dar au iesit pe piata cu o explicatie cum ca nu le/ar apartine drepturile de autor pentru primul stormblast si de aceea au revenit cu el!   :o
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2006, 10:12:09 pm »
adevarat ca multa lume arunca pareri intr-o parte si in alta...si e drep...la cate schimbari de membri au avut si ei...nu ii potzi condamna....dar sa canti asa bine live cum o fac ei...prea putzin sa difere fata de melodia inregistrata in studio...eu cred k e ceva(mult)....si chiar daca mai toate albumele imi plac, adevarul e ca se simt anumite influente si chiar deviatii de la gen
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2006, 10:20:22 pm »
I-am descoperit cand eram inca in liceu. Era un coleg de la o clasa paralela care acume in grupa paralela cu mine la academie si mi-a dat intr-o si un cd si mi-a spus ca e "rock" si ca mie ar trebui sa imi placa. Nici nu ii cerusem nimic acelui om. Tipul confiscase cd-ul de la un pusti de clasa a 10-a.  ;D Sa fie sanatosi amandoi. Inca ascult Dimmu. Omul mie mi se pare destul de bun. Comercial sau nu, a stiut sa faca muzica.
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2006, 10:35:46 pm »
sincer componentza actuala mi se pare cea mai reushita..moment important knd ji-a facut aparitzia in trupa Vortex cred io..
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2006, 10:29:15 pm »
vechiul dimmu,cel de pana la death cult...tare de tot!
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2006, 09:51:46 pm »
Quote from: filthy on May 10, 2006, 10:29:15 pm
vechiul dimmu,cel de pana la death cult...tare de tot!

Hmmmmm, aceeasi poveste ca la COF!
q.e.d.  8)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2006, 10:41:19 pm »
hmm il citez pe crematory...aceeasi poveste ca la CoF...Dimmu Borgir isi au si ei meritele lor in muzica si unele foarte mari..fiindca asa cum spunea si Inger Alb intr-un post pe undeva ei alaturi de Catamenia si poate si altii au introdus nota de melodicitate in black....La fiecare album au evoluat au adus ceva nou...dar comercializarea lor s-a facut prin descopirerea de catre diferiti pustiulici care par rai..Tipii sunt buni si sunt instrumentisti calumea(dar alcoolici rau :))  asta pentru cine a vazut World Misanthropy)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2006, 10:48:05 pm »
 ;D world m. .....vazut , placut!   8)
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2006, 01:20:43 am »
oameni buni,nu ma intelegeti gresit,nu sunt absurd,sunt constient de aportul lui Dimmu si ii respect f mult,doar k noul stil,k si la cradle nu ma mai atrage la fel de mult,atata tot.
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2006, 07:07:04 am »
 ;D si la urma urmei este muzica, asa ca......de gustibus  8)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2006, 05:19:37 pm »
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2006, 09:07:09 pm »
ok, eu vreau sa zic ca dimmu borgir a fost prima trupa de rock care am auzit-o, acum cativa ani, si de care am ramas foarte fascinat. primul album care l-am ascultat a fost Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, si pe care si acum cred ca nu exista zi in care sa nu ii dau play odata in winamp, si nu cred ca o sa ma plictisesc vreodata de el. shimbarea genului e fireasca, ca la orice trupa, nu numai ca la COF (pentru ca am vazut ca la ei se raporteaza tot, cel putin al topicul de la dimmu. eu am tot respectul pentru ei, si cum a zis cineva inaintea mea, e ceva super sa poti sa canti LIVE si sa fie aproape 99% la fel ca in studio!
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2006, 11:23:42 pm »
Quote from: black_murderer on June 18, 2006, 09:07:09 pm
e ceva super sa poti sa canti LIVE si sa fie aproape 99% la fel ca in studio!

cred k au avut concerte in care au bagat mai bine k in studio 8)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2006, 10:50:07 pm »
total de acord, dar sunt curios de ce a fost comparata dar cu CoF... totusi... nu prea seamana si nici nu rasare... dar in fine...
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2006, 12:50:37 am »
Personal, eu nu am auzit de comparatie, numai de amintire a uneia in aceasi fraza in care era amintita si cealalta. De ce? Asta e alta discutie, desigur...  ;)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2006, 11:08:13 pm »
parerea mea e ca au fost oarecum comparati cu CoF. cel putin asa am inteles eu...
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2006, 11:45:00 pm »
Quote from: black_murderer on June 23, 2006, 11:08:13 pm
parerea mea e ca au fost oarecum comparati cu CoF. cel putin asa am inteles eu...

he he he ce are sula cu prefectura!   8)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2006, 08:49:50 pm »
Black_Murderer ai dreptate...au fost comparati mereu cu COF(la fiecare interview pe care l-am citit/vazut cu ei.li se puneau intrebarea:Care este legatura dintre DB si COF?")...ca si Dani,Silenoz a raspuns elegant,spunand ca nu-l intereseaza ce fac altii,fiecare e cu treaba lui.Comparatia asta a inceput tot de la fani(care nu au ce face si posteaza tampenii de genul,Dimmu rulz,Cradle sucks;sau invers)...in fine,revenind la DIMMU BORGIR...este o formatie foarte buna(si muzica si versurile...se observa ca sunt lucrate atent,punandu-se la punct si cel mai mic detaliu).Iar despre Stian Theoresen(Shagrath) ce pot sa zic:este un adevarat artist.Ceea ce a facut el cu Dimmu Borgir este demn de luat in seama(si sunt sigura ca va continua sa scrie istorie cu proiectul sau Chrome Division-o alta fatza a lui Shagrath)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2006, 09:03:08 am »
sunt curios ce o sa fie de noul album, la ei pe site scrie ca o sa fie ceva mai bun!
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2006, 08:59:45 am »
Din cate am inteles,incep sa-l inregistreze in octombrie si vor sa-l scoata pe piata "early next year".Eu sincer sunt curios sa vad daca o sa poata sa faca un album la fel de(pote chiar mai) bun decat Deat Cult Armageddon fara Nicholas Barker.Pe site scrie ca o sa-l foloseasca pe Hellhammer pt.noul album.Cine stie pote o sa iasa ceva bun....
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2006, 01:19:20 am »
Quote from: grim_reaper on September 02, 2006, 08:59:45 am
Pe site scrie ca o sa-l foloseasca pe HELLHAMMER pt.noul album.Cine stie pote o sa iasa ceva bun....

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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2006, 02:39:26 pm »
Dinu Burghiu este o trupa mare, fara indoiala. Spre deosebire de Cradle of Flit care exploateaza latura intunecato-carnalo-romantico-sangeroasa a tineretului, Dinu Burghiu ii gadila la coarda sensibila (ma refer la ultimele albume) pe cei care se viseaza (de obicei stand intr-un fotoliu si meditand) puternici, puri, perfecti. 

Pentru mine, Pura Eugenie Mizerabila a fost un album de referinta in metal. Dinu Burghiu au ridicat cu cel putin 5 clase nivelul scenei metalice cu acest album. (ma refer la sound, productie, conceptie). Cu toate acestea, Stormblast si Enthrone Darkness Triumphant raman pentru mine Dinu Burghiu...acea atmosfera superba...boombasticul si maretia in muzica...not for me...prefer rafinamentul (Opeth) sau bizarul (Blut aus Nord)...

Ultimul album (Cultul Mortii lui Aghiuta) nu m-a impresionat absolut deloc...but that is just me!!! ;)...am ascultat Stormblast remastered si am apasat apoi doua taste Shift+Del ...

Dinu Burghiu = muzica buna dar si o mare doza de kitsch ;)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2006, 03:09:03 pm »
Incontestabil, o trupa mare, dar care prea face o muzica in care ei nu mai cred.... Cel putin asta e senzatia mea de vreo 2-3 albume incoace. Nu discut muzica, facuta cu cap, nu discut ghiersu' care nu e chiar pentru blambeci, vorbesc doar de feeling...
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2006, 06:55:10 pm »
Si pe mine m-a dezamagit crunt DCA. Si la fel si miscarea lor catre neo-nazi si alte apucaturi d-astea. Dar ... it's just show-business ... :(
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2006, 11:50:59 pm »
hmm da tenta lor nazista a aparut doar de la DCA? eu aveam alta impresie.....ca ei cu asta au inceput :D
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2006, 12:34:17 am »
Dimmu am inceput sa ascult pe la inceutul liceului, si din prima mi-au mers direct la inima si n-au mai iesit de-acolo. E drept ca la inceput le preferam creatiile noi, in special DCA. Cu timpul am inceput sa gust mai mult din For All Tid si Stormblast, iar la ora actuala astea sunt preferatele mele.
Oricat de criticati si de controversati ar fi, mie mi se par foarte faini. Nu ii ascult ca black metal, ii ascult ca muzica. Si mi se pare remarcabil ca au relativ putine piese (comparativ cu volumul discografiei) care seamana intre ele. Parerea mea.
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2006, 09:39:16 am »
Si trupa asta e super tare.E cea mai bine vanduta trupa de black metal.Si pe buna dreptarte ;D
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2006, 04:54:02 pm »
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2006, 07:59:03 am »
 ;)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2006, 10:30:22 am »
ce e amuzant in postul de mai sus, care sper ca va disparea in curand, mpreuna cu cel pe care-l scriu eu acu, e cenzurarea cuvantului pu*a...si doar a lui
btw, am primit si pm de la darkraven in care sustine ca sunt un catel nevinovat in gura caruia... ;D ;D ;D
O sa ma simt bine toata ziua pe chestia asta, si nu glumesc :D
Mersi, DarkRaven!  :-*
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2006, 10:38:38 am »
in urma cu o ora l/am banat dfinitiv pe stimabilul dark si nu mai stiu cum.....   8)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2006, 03:59:25 pm »
nu pot sa inteleg  de ce s-a enervat individu' de mai sus
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2006, 04:14:19 pm »
E asa, cum sa zic... sa-i spun stimabilului John_Otto ca mie nu-mi zic nimic Deftones... Si el sa ma ia la injurat...
Nu nene, tine de o educatie a comunicarii... De acel sfant 'imi place/nu-mi place'
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2006, 03:59:00 pm »
In alta ordine de indei,tocmai am aflat numele albumului urmator al trupei DB,In Sorte Diaboli
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2006, 04:01:00 pm »
Bai, deci, titlul e o.k. !   ;D
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2006, 06:27:34 pm »
Bahh,deci ash vrea sa-mi cer scuze tuturor carora i-am jignit.Mai ales lui Phradeus!!!!Imi cer scuze!!!! :-[ :-[
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2006, 06:32:42 pm »
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Written by Odio_Pieno on October 14th, 2005

The Best Produced Album They Have Done All Around Everything Comes In Clear And Does Not Sound There Older Stuff Where It Is The Same Rift Over And Over Really If You Can't Say It Is Not A God Like Album Then Don't Listen To Metal Really Cause You Have No Idea What Your Talking About And The Whole Thing That Orchestra Is Lame Or Overrated Then You Really Don't Know Your Roots The Is Great On All Aspects And It Tops There Musical Capablities.

m/ "Keep The Metal Faith Alive" - Chuck Schuldiner m/



"Rift" is probably the single worst piece of metal-related Engrish ever. Hundreds of times worse than "trash" or "solows."

My reply:

Nightgaunt wrote:
End your life. Do it painfully; do it brutally; do it messily. But most importantly....do it soon.

seamana un pic cu postul de deasupra mea? ::) :P
Seriously now, db nu mi-a spus niciodata nimic, o fi chestie de gusturi. Dar cand vin destui si-mi spun ca metalul incepe si se termina cu db, cof, cob sau chestii de genul asta, nu se poate sa nu am si o reactie, ilogica, recunosc, improtriva trupei in sine.

am crezut ca prin "postul" a vrut sa spuna prostul.de asemenea am fost ofensat de alti membi,ma luat valu'!!
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Offline DarkRaven

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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2006, 06:36:33 pm »
Da totusi nu inteleg,dc mi-atzi dat accept?
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2006, 06:39:07 pm »
vezi ca ai un buton de edit :) ca sa nu mai ai 3 posturi consecutive :)
sa ai unu in plus.
Inca un Raven? Da stiu ca va impuiati repede :)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2006, 08:47:11 pm »
Scuze acceptate
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2006, 02:49:53 pm »
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2006, 02:52:54 pm »
Quote from: DarkRaven on December 02, 2006, 06:27:34 pm
Bahh,deci ash vrea sa-mi cer scuze tuturor carora i-am jignit.Mai ales lui Phradeus!!!!Imi cer scuze!!!! :-[ :-[

......pentru asta nu pot sa spun decat......respect!!!!   8)
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2007, 12:07:27 pm »
Dimmu Borgir...da...o trupa care a inceput cu cateva albume destul de reusite (ma refer aici la For All Tid si Stormblast) si a continuat cu mult prea mediatizatul E.D.T.
De aici cred ca s-a rupt ceva...s-a schimbat si stilul si soundul poate si ideile lor de a crea Black Metal.
Nu zic ca albumele de dupa E.D.T.sunt naspa...dar nici nu pot sa le ascult cu mare placere.
Puritanical are si el ceva bun...un sound unic...dar s-a indepartat foarte mult de ceea ce se vroia la inceput.
Imi mai place fosta trupa a lui Shagrath...Fimbulwinter cu care a scos in 1994 un album destul de reusit la vremea aceea in Norvegia.
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2007, 07:43:20 pm »
Ak revenind la subiectul"albume preferate",pot spune ca Dimmu Borgir mi-au castigat respectul datorita albumelor Black Spiritual Dimension,Godless Savage Garden,Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia,Enthrone Darkness Thriumphant shi StormBlast(2005).
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2007, 10:18:42 am »
Nu stiu ce iti place la Stormblast 2005 e cam nereusit...nici nu se compara cu varianta orig.
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2007, 09:20:21 am »
Quote from: suffoflesh on January 18, 2007, 10:18:42 am
Nu stiu ce iti place la Stormblast 2005 e cam nereusit...nici nu se compara cu varianta orig.

Mie-mi place.Pus ca nici n-am auzit varianta originala
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Re: Dimmu Borgir
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2007, 11:09:32 am »
Asculta For All Tid, Stormblast si Devil Path daca nu ai facut-o pana acum si dupa aia poti sa compari cu ultimele albume D B
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