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Fear Factory
« on: April 01, 2008, 09:34:33 pm »
Fear Factory este una dintre formatiile care a reusit sa surprinda death metalul in adevaratul lui in sens prin implementarea unor sunete futuriste ceea ce le-a oferit un loc in galeria celor mai importante formatii de metal.De asemenea se numara printre primele formatii care au folosit in versuri teme science fiction.

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Daca va place aceasta formatie va invit sa va exprimati parerea pe acest topic.



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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 09:42:22 pm »
Aaaa, din cate stiam eu, parca Voivod erau primii, sau, cel putin, printre primii din metalul extrem sa foloseasca versuri SF.

Totusi, cred ca in metal in general, sa fi fost altii care au folosit primii versuri SF, dar nu-mi vine nici un nume in cap acuma...

Legat de Fear Factory, nush ce sa zic despre elogie. Or fi ei misto, or baga ei chestii electronice in death, dar nu sunt benchmarkul pentru tot ce e death, parerea mea...

Am ascultat un pic mai de mult, si mi s-au parut binisori, dar parca nu mi se par extraordinari... In materie de death, cred ca raman la Cannibal Corpse-ul meu (si in curand la Death si Obituary).

Dar cine stie, ii mai pastrez pe la mine pe FF. Sunt ca lumea, dar nu excelenti. As fi vrut sa aibe un sound mai spre industrial, dar meh...
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 09:52:59 pm »
De asemenea se numara printre primele formatii care au folosit in versuri teme science fiction.



E nitel (ca's finutz) hazardata afirmatia asta.  ::)

Dar ca sa nu fi trecut pe aici doar sa contest o afirmatie, hai sa zic si ceva despre FF: cam ce a fost scos pana prin '00, agreeam. Adica, partea cu Cazares, inainte de a ajunge in Brujeria si Asesino. Acum, ma-ndoiesc ca as mai asculta cu mare interes, chiar si albumele astea. Dar nu jur.

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A, si componenta completa:

Last known line-up
Burton C. Bell - Vocals (Ascension of the Watchers, ex-Geezer, ex-Hated... And Proud!)
Christian Olde Wolbers - Guitars ((Bass 1994-2002 "Demanufacture" - "Archetype") (Asphyxia (Bel), Cyclone, Kush, Burn It All)
Byron Stroud - Bass (Strapping Young Lad, Zimmer's Hole, ex-Devin Townsend, ex-Caustic Thought, ex-Unit: 187, ex-Physicist)
Raymond Herrera - Drums (ex-Brujeria, ex-Asesino, Phobia (US) (session), Kush, Burn It All)

Former/past member(s)
Guitars:
Dino Cazares (Divine Heresy, Asesino, ex-Brujeria, ex-Excruciating Terror, ex-Hated...And Proud!, ex- Body Bag)

Bass:
Andrew Shives (never recorded with the band, despite rumors) (ex-Cool for August, Paperstreet)
Andy Romero
Billy Gould (Guest) (Brujeria, Faith No More)

Keyboards:
Rhys Fulber (Front Line Assembly, Delerium, Conjure One, Synaesthesia, Will)
Reynor Diego
John Bechdel (Front Line Assembly, Ascension of the Watchers, ex-Prong, Killing Joke, Ministry)

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 10:10:14 pm »
Conte multumiri pt adaosul de informatii despre componenta formatiei.Ma asteptam mai degraba sa fiu admonestat pt ca nu am adus mai multe completari...
Nu stiu daca e intocmai pe gustul tau,dar totusi iti recomand si Digimortal.Daca iti plac experimentele o sa gasesti chestii interesante  acolo.

ShiverMeSideWays poate gresesc,dar si eu am specificat printre primii.Cat despre faza cu Caniibali nu cred ca are rost sa incerci sa faci anumite comparatii cu FF ca exista diferente mari:CC sunt brutal death metal,violenta versurilor e  la ea acasa,nu se omoara cu experimentele s.a.m.d
Poate ca excelenti(in anumite contexte mi se pare fad termenul) nu sunt,dar eu cred ca sunt o formatie importanta si ca merita ascultati.

P.S:Nu te opri la Demanufacture.Sfatul meu e sa mai asculti ca sa iti poti forma o parere solida.
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 03:50:09 pm »
Aaaa, din cate stiam eu, parca Voivod erau primii, sau, cel putin, printre primii din metalul extrem sa foloseasca versuri SF.

si Blue Oyster Cult, in hard rock, inaintea lor.
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 01:07:08 pm »
Inainte de toate, trebuie sa precizez ca FF se numara printre trupele mele preferate. Acestea fiind spuse:
1. eu unul nu consider FF o trupa de death metal, ci de industrial (poate doar "Soul...", dar pana si ala are elemente industrial). Industrial nu inseamna numai Ministry, sau Rammstein (sunt si trupe care au un sound foarte dur).
2. au mai fost trupe cu teme SF si inainte de FF (ex: Nocturnus; pe urma, multe trupe de thrash au avut versuri cu tema sf - era chiar un fel de trend, la un moment dat). Dar sincer nu vad de ce ar conta atat de mult? Mai degraba as evidentia sectia ritmica, care sta la baza a tot ce inseamna la ora actuala sectie ritmica in "metalcore" ;)
3. Cazares este fondatorul Brujeria, asa ca n-a "ajuns" in trupa, el a constituit-o. Partea funny este ca initial Max Cavakera trebuia sa fie vocal, dar nu a ajuns la timp pentru inregistrari :) Anyway, Brujeria a mers in paralel cu FF (primul labum a aparut parca prin '93, dar trupa exista de prin '90), asa ca a fost mai mult decat un simplu side project (mie-mi place full gasca!).
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 05:00:44 pm »
si Blue Oyster Cult, in hard rock, inaintea lor.



si yes mai nainte..
tales from the topografic ocean..
si in general totz hipiotzii care visau la racheta stelara pe baza de lsd.. :D
nu, da serios.. totz scriitorii de sf erau hipiotz, ca vb aia.. golden ageu sf prin perioada aia 60-70 era

as reaminti de nocturnus la cafitolu sf satanist.. 8)
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 08:56:48 pm »
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2008, 11:04:33 am »
au avut un sound original de tot la inceput..si ink imi plac mult..insa dupa digimortal s-au cam plafonat! i-am vazut live si merita banii!
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2008, 11:38:42 am »
ma faci sa imi bag unghia in gat!

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2008, 11:41:20 am »
si yes mai nainte..
tales from the topografic ocean..
si in general totz hipiotzii care visau la racheta stelara pe baza de lsd.. :D
nu, da serios.. totz scriitorii de sf erau hipiotz, ca vb aia.. golden ageu sf prin perioada aia 60-70 era

as reaminti de nocturnus la cafitolu sf satanist.. 8)


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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 11:47:35 am »
Morrisoane ii aduci la noi pe nenicii astia? ;D

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 11:52:05 am »
Morrisoane ii aduci la noi pe nenicii astia? ;D

din cate am vazut nu suna/sunt nici pe departe la fel de bine live. iese in fata partea de "harcoare"...etc... "jump" "jump"...  :-\

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 11:57:02 am »
i-ai vazut live?

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 12:04:31 pm »
din cate am vazut nu suna/sunt nici pe departe la fel de bine live. iese in fata partea de "harcoare"...etc... "jump" "jump"...  :-\


Pai si ce e asa rau in asta? :D

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2008, 12:07:48 pm »
Heh din ce am auzit punctul forte e vocalul...
Deci bai Fanel,bai Morrison ia faceti-le o invitatie la Bucuresti sa facem jump jump...

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2008, 12:16:19 pm »
Lol, la Fear Factory in Romania nu-ti vin nici 500 de oameni ...

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2008, 03:39:57 pm »
Este foarte greu sa mixezi live intr-un mod fericit clapele & sampleurile cu restul instrumentelor (mai ales cu chitarile); au din start tendinta de a suna mai "subtire"; dar asta nu inseamna ca trupa suna live prost - ba din contra.

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2008, 04:59:57 pm »
parerea mea e ca ffactory fara "clape" "sample" etc...adica aspectele care fac, impreuna cu detu, din Demanufacture un album asa de reusit, nu are mare lucru peste alte trupe, mai ieftine, mai usor de adus.

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2008, 08:00:34 pm »
In primul rand, FF fara clape, samplers & stuff nu prea se poate; ele fac corp comun cu "gin gin"-ul.
In al 2-lea rand, te inseli, FF are o mare chestie fata de alte trupe, si anume sectia ritmica diabolic de precisa si riffurile aproape 'chirurgical' executate; este un mod de a lucra pe care acum majoritatea trupelor americane de 'core' l-au adoptat, dar baza ramane FF. Acum mai bine de 15 ani nici dreq nu canta asa (probabil pentru ca nici nu prea puteau). Fiecare cu parerea lui, dar cine crede ca piesele FF sunt floare la ureche sa incerce sa cante una 1:1 si pe urma mai vorbim :)

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2008, 09:15:14 pm »
+ atmosefra de voce growl+voce clean face toti banii...
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2008, 02:13:46 pm »
In primul rand, FF fara clape, samplers & stuff nu prea se poate; ele fac corp comun cu "gin gin"-ul.
In al 2-lea rand, te inseli, FF are o mare chestie fata de alte trupe, si anume sectia ritmica diabolic de precisa si riffurile aproape 'chirurgical' executate; este un mod de a lucra pe care acum majoritatea trupelor americane de 'core' l-au adoptat, dar baza ramane FF. Acum mai bine de 15 ani nici dreq nu canta asa (probabil pentru ca nici nu prea puteau). Fiecare cu parerea lui, dar cine crede ca piesele FF sunt floare la ureche sa incerce sa cante una 1:1 si pe urma mai vorbim :)



bre, ideea e ca live auzi clapele alea ca un cur fara buci intelegi? si foarte bine ca au sectie ritmica calumea, multi au. dar daca live aud doar asta dau banii degeaba.

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2008, 10:24:00 pm »
Mah prietene, nimeni nu-ti baga mana in buzunar; n-ai decat sa stai acasa, care-i problema? ;D
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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2008, 10:32:26 pm »
Las'ca ne-a asigurat Fane ca nu are banii sa-i cheme :D...nu va mai certati

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2008, 11:29:23 pm »
Mah prietene, nimeni nu-ti baga mana in buzunar; n-ai decat sa stai acasa, care-i problema? ;D

problema, evident, iti scapa.

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2008, 11:36:33 pm »
Nu-i asa ca incercam sa nu deviem intr-o mica cearta?? Sar'naaaaaa  :-*.


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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2009, 09:01:29 am »
The new band calling itself FEAR FACTORY — featuring original FF members Dino Cazares (guitar) and Burton C. Bell (vocals) alongside bassist Byron Stroud (who played on the last two FEAR FACTORY albums in addition to touring and recording with STRAPPING YOUNG LAD and ZIMMERS HOLE) and legendary drummer Gene Hoglan (DETHKLOK, STRAPPING YOUNG LAD, DARK ANGEL, DEATH, TESTAMENT) — has tapped Greg Reely (PARADISE LOST, FRONT LINE ASSEMBLY, SKINNY PUPPY) to mix the group's new album, which is tentatively due in early 2010 via an as-yet-undetermined record label. Cazares says, "We are halfway done with the recording, [and] it's coming out better than I thought. We are going to take four weeks mixing with Greg Reely on a SSL [Solid State Logic mixing board] in L.A."

Regarding the new material's direction, Dino said, "It has a 'Soul Of A New Machine' [1992] and 'Demanufacture' [1995] feel to it."

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2009, 01:35:36 pm »


Regarding the new material's direction, Dino said, "It has a 'Soul Of A New Machine' [1992] and 'Demanufacture' [1995] feel to it."




Da...deci cam asta e tendinta tuturor trupelor mari.Cand anunta un album nou il aseamana repede cu cele mai bune realizari din discografie.
Oricum eu astept cu mult interes mai ales ca s-a bagat in combinatie si Hoglan. ;D

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2009, 12:56:42 pm »
Deci: A iesit o piesa noua Fear Factory!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o



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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2009, 03:35:18 pm »
Chiar ca e pe directia primelor 2 albume cu triggerele la inaintare si riffurile alea demente.Misto! ;D

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2009, 09:56:18 am »
mai degraba Obsolete, zic eu. in orice caz: obsolete.

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Re: Fear Factory
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2012, 11:36:57 pm »
Fear factory reprezinta dupa parerea mea prima formatie care a putut defini partea de industrial metal. Daca ascultam melodii gen: Cyberwaste:
Fear Factory-Cyberwaste
Drones:
Fear Factory Drones
Industrial Discipline:
Fear Factory - Industrial Discipline
etc..., putem intelege obsersia lui Burton despre interactiunea OM-ROBOT. Este primul solist pe care-l aud vorbind despre senzori(nervi) capabili de a masura intesitatea unei presiuni, cilindri(musculatura) pentru forta si putere de procesare(o parte din creier).
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